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The 28th annual Daily News-Eagles City
All-Star Game was played May 18,
7 p.m., at Northeast High. Non-Public won, 16-14.
Send your post-game comments to silaryt@phillynews.com
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An alumni group for former participants in the Daily
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I urge game participants to click here for an inspirational note from a former basketball
star in Philly now making his mark in education. Thanks!
NON-PUBLIC 16, PUBLIC 14
Non-Pub |
Public |
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First Downs |
12 | 9 | ||
Rushes-Yards |
39-142 | 43-104 | ||
Passing Yards |
105 | 55 | ||
Total Offense |
247 | 159 | ||
Passes |
6-12-0 | 3-8-0 | ||
Return yards |
19 | 1 | ||
Punts |
3-25.3 | 6-30.2 | ||
Fumbles lost |
2 | 0 | ||
Penalties-yards |
2-11 | 7-78 | ||
Non-Public 0 13 3 0 -- 16 |
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Public 14 0 0 0 -- 14 |
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| P:Sanders 1 run (run failed) | ||||
| P: Gore 2 run (Sanders run) | ||||
| N-P: Lachman pass from Hennigar (O'Brien kick) | ||||
| N-P: Chromiak 19 pass from Gallagher (kick failed) | ||||
| N-P: FG O'Brien 37 | ||||
RUSHING |
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| NON-PUBLIC: Chris Scott-Peters, Neumann, 18-65; | ||||
| Kyle Ambrogi, SJ Prep, 10-36; Scott Downey, Ryan, | ||||
| 4-11; Sean McGovern, Dougherty, 2-14; Vince Gallagher, | ||||
| SJ Prep, 2-12; Tom Maisch, Roman, 1-6; Justin | ||||
| O'Brien, Judge, 1-2; Greg Hennigar, Judge, 1-(-4). | ||||
| PUBLIC: Omar Sanders, Overbrook, 9-35; Chris | ||||
| DeShields, Mastbaum, 9-12; Donald Jefferson, King, | ||||
| 5-21; Chris Poindexter, Northeast, 5-16; Ryan Gore, | ||||
| Washington, 5-11; Marcus Waddy, Frankford, 3-5; Phil | ||||
| Evans, Bartram, 3-(-3); Bruce Morris, U. City, 2-12; | ||||
| Jeffrey King, Germantown, 1-10; center snap 1-(-15). | ||||
PASSING |
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| NON-PUBLIC: Greg Hennigar, Judge, 4-9-0 -- 55; | ||||
| Vince Gallagher, SJ Prep, 2-2-0 -- 50; Sean | ||||
| McGovern, Dougherty, 0-1-0 -- 0. PUBLIC: Omar | ||||
| Sanders, Overbrook, 2-6-0 -- 45; Phil Evans, | ||||
| Bartram, 1-2-0 -- 10. | ||||
RECEIVING |
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| NON-PUBLIC: Jim Lachman, SJ Prep, 4-84; Pete | ||||
| Chromiak, SJ Prep, 1-19; Justin O'Brien, Judge, | ||||
| 1-2. PUBLIC: Romar Drake, Bartram, 1-38; Omar | ||||
| Sanders, Overbrook 1-10; Donald Jefferson, King, | ||||
| 1-7. | ||||
KICKOFF RETURNS |
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| NON-PUBLIC: Justin O'Brien, Judge, 1-19. | ||||
| PUBLIC: Barren Grier, Dobbins, 1-1. | ||||
PUNT RETURNS |
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NON-PUBLIC: Mike Haigh, Judge, 1-0; Justin |
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| O'Brien, Judge, 1-0. | ||||
INTERCEPTION RETURNS |
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None. |
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FUMBLE RETURNS |
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PUBLIC: Chris DeShields, Mastbaum, 1-0; Chris Poindexter, Northeast, 1-0. |
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TACKLING LEADERS |
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| NON-PUBLIC: Rich Ott, Ryan, 8; Mike | ||||
| Piotrowicz, North, 7; Jim McAteer, Judge, 6; Tom | ||||
| Lynch, Judge, and Bryan Navin, Neumann, 5. | ||||
| PUBLIC: Maurice Bennett, Washington, and Anthony | ||||
| Winder, Mastbaum, 10; Ryan Gore, Washington, | ||||
| and Richard Cheek, Roxborough, 6; Alfort DeJesus, | ||||
| Dobbins, 5. | ||||
MOST VALUABLE PLAYERS |
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NON-PUBLIC: Sean Hennigar, Judge, offense; Rich |
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| SPORTSMANSHIP WINNERS | ||||
| NON-PUBLIC: Dan Graf, Judge. PUBLIC: Richard | ||||
| Cheek, Roxborough. | ||||
ROSTERS FOR 2002 GAME
(Comments below rosters)
NON-PUBLIC
| No. | Name |
School |
Pos |
Ht |
Wt |
8 |
Vince Gallagher |
SJ Prep |
QB |
6-1 |
190 |
10 |
Chris Scott-Peters |
Neumann |
RB |
6-1 |
210 |
11 |
Scott Downey |
Ryan |
RB |
5-10 |
200 |
12 |
Greg Hennigar |
Judge |
QB |
6-3 |
200 |
14 |
Mike Mailey |
SJ Prep |
DE |
6-4 |
245 |
15 |
Pete Chromiak |
SJ Prep |
WR |
6-2 |
200 |
17 |
Sean McGovern |
Dougherty |
QB |
6-1 |
180 |
18 |
Brian Hannan |
N. Catholic |
DB |
5-9 |
175 |
21 |
Jim Lachman |
SJ Prep |
WR |
6-3 |
215 |
22 |
Jim McAteer |
Judge |
DB |
5-10 |
180 |
23 |
Mike Haigh |
Judge |
WR |
5-9 |
150 |
24 |
Dan Graf |
Judge |
DB |
6-0 |
165 |
25 |
Adam Hepp |
SJ Prep |
DB |
6-1 |
205 |
27 |
Kevin Dolan |
Roman |
DB |
5-9 |
165 |
31 |
Kyle Ambrogi |
SJ Prep |
RB |
5-10 |
215 |
33 |
Bryan Navin |
Neumann |
DB |
6-0 |
190 |
35 |
Justin O'Brien |
Judge |
RB |
5-10 |
180 |
37 |
Ryan Dopkin |
Roman |
DB |
5-10 |
170 |
43 |
Tom Maisch |
Roman |
RB |
5-9 |
175 |
44 |
Anthony Alosi |
Roman |
DL |
5-9 |
195 |
47 |
Mike Piotrowicz |
N. Catholic |
LB |
6-1 |
215 |
48 |
Tim Giangiulio |
SJ Prep |
DL |
5-10 |
215 |
49 |
Tom Lynch |
Judge |
LB |
5-10 |
210 |
50 |
Ryan Loftus |
Judge |
DL |
6-2 |
195 |
51 |
Dave McDermott |
SJ Prep |
DE |
5-10 |
175 |
52 |
Mark Meighan |
Neumann |
LB |
5-9 |
185 |
55 |
Steve Ricci |
Judge |
L |
6-0 |
240 |
56 |
Joe Kerins |
SJ Prep |
LB |
6-1 |
220 |
58 |
Rich Ott |
Ryan |
LB |
6-1 |
220 |
61 |
Justin Adams |
Neumann |
L |
6-3 |
225 |
62 |
Ryan Brody |
Roman |
DL |
6-1 |
230 |
65 |
Steve Mair |
SJ Prep |
L |
6-3 |
230 |
71 |
Mike Minetti |
SJ Prep |
L |
6-0 |
195 |
72 |
John Connors |
SJ Prep |
L |
6-3 |
280 |
76 |
Joe Troiano |
SJ Prep |
L |
5-9 |
280 |
78 |
Ryan Nase |
Judge |
L |
6-3 |
295 |
79 |
John Gaynor |
Judge |
L |
6-1 |
280 |
81 |
Pete Welsh |
SJ Prep |
P |
6-2 |
175 |
85 |
Brian Tucci |
SJ Prep |
TE |
6-4 |
220 |
89 |
Dave Quaintance |
Ryan |
DL |
6-5 |
275 |
Coach: Tommy Coyle, Judge |
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Positions are tentative |
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PUBLIC
| No. | Name |
School |
Pos. |
Ht. |
Wt. |
8 |
Aleem Medley |
Franklin |
WR |
6-1 |
185 |
10 |
Omar Sanders |
Overbrook |
QB |
5-9 |
165 |
11 |
Phil Evans |
Bartram |
QB |
6-1 |
205 |
12 |
Marcus Waddy |
Frankford |
RB |
5-9 |
150 |
14 |
Bruce Morris |
Univ. City |
DL |
5-11 |
245 |
15 |
Leon Pettyjohn |
Southern |
WR |
5-11 |
195 |
17 |
Barren Grier |
Dobbins |
WR |
6-3 |
190 |
18 |
Chris Poindexter |
Northeast |
RB |
5-9 |
190 |
22 |
Darien Hardy |
Northeast |
DB |
5-10 |
185 |
23 |
Donald Jefferson |
King |
RB |
5-10 |
185 |
24 |
Romar Drake |
Bartram |
WR |
6-2 |
195 |
25 |
Chris DeShields |
Mastbaum |
RB |
5-10 |
195 |
27 |
Jeffrey King |
Germantown |
DB |
5-8 |
160 |
31 |
Anthony Winder |
Mastbaum |
LB |
6-0 |
195 |
33 |
Maurice Bennett |
Washington |
LB |
5-10 |
225 |
35 |
Ryan Gore |
Washington |
LB |
5-11 |
205 |
37 |
Shahfin Timmons |
Lincoln |
DB |
5-10 |
180 |
43 |
Will McCall |
Bok |
DB |
5-5 |
160 |
44 |
David Montgomery |
Northeast |
LB |
6-0 |
225 |
47 |
Ryan McMillian |
Northeast |
DB |
5-8 |
155 |
48 |
Corey Sample |
Northeast |
DB |
5-9 |
175 |
49 |
Munir Nuriddin |
Central |
LB |
5-11 |
170 |
51 |
Ty Brannock |
Lincoln |
LB |
5-10 |
185 |
52 |
Londale Walden |
Northeast |
DL |
5-9 |
210 |
55 |
Harry Max |
Northeast |
LB |
5-8 |
195 |
56 |
Maurice Kelley |
Bartram |
DL |
6-2 |
220 |
58 |
Shawn Jeter |
Bok |
L |
6-1 |
260 |
63 |
Russell Kubach |
Mastbaum |
L |
5-10 |
220 |
65 |
Richard Cheek |
Roxborough |
DL |
6-3 |
260 |
66 |
Gary Dunlap |
King |
DL |
6-0 |
235 |
67 |
Jason Bermudez |
Washington |
L |
5-7 |
210 |
71 |
Ian Greaves |
Bartram |
L |
6-0 |
220 |
72 |
Tracy Williams |
Frankford |
L |
6-5 |
350 |
73 |
Alfort DeJesus |
Dobbins |
DL |
6-0 |
235 |
74 |
Boe Davis |
Franklin |
DL |
6-3 |
295 |
76 |
Harold Dawling |
Northeast |
L |
6-2 |
230 |
79 |
Tyrique Johnson |
Bok |
DL |
6-1 |
250 |
81 |
Michael Harcum |
Olney |
WR |
6-0 |
165 |
85 |
Terrell Roper |
W. Phila. |
TE |
6-0 |
215 |
89 |
Jonathan Jordan |
Franklin |
TE |
6-2 |
270 |
90 |
Joseph Smith |
Bartram |
LB |
6-1 |
215 |
Coach: Damond "Smash" Warren, King |
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Positions are tentative |
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PRE-GAME COMMENTS . . .
This should be a real good game, with at the end the Catholic League
prevailing.This will once and for-all show what league is better, but then again it
doesn't because just imagine if the catholic schools surrounding Philly could play like
Carroll and Bonner, this game would be a complete blowout. But with the rosters the way
they are now, I dont see the PUb having a chance.
---- BanksShots
(Ted's note: The series has gone back and forth since its inception. The
CL club does look very strong. The CL schools in
the suburbs play in various county games.)
the non public defense is a hard hitting sqaud with blue collar
defenders and hard noses for the ball. I dont think its goin to be very easy for the
public league to get around or through that defensive line or linebacker's Tommy Lynch,
Rich Ott, and Adam Hepp as well as those D-backs.
---- Gerard Prodoehl
Ted: Why no representation from PC?
---- Jack Brewster
(Ted's note: Very often, PC and Chestnut Hill, which is also inside the
limits, have not been represented. Kids
are involved in spring sports and don't want to double up. I forget off the top of my
head, but I'm not sure
PC and CH are even part of the process anymore. Kind of sad, huh?)
dear ted,
Do you think the
non-public o-line is going to dominate since the prep and judge lines are combined, i mean
you now have conners , mair, troiano, and minetti, with nase, gaynor,ricci, and adams. i
don't see the pubs defense being able to handle these boys. this is a genetically
engineered offenisve line. How do you think they are going to match up.
---- football fan
(Ted's note: When the Pub is successful in this game, it's almost always
because of a quick, aggressive defense
that beats slower offensive linemen. That again will be the N-P's challenge.)
I really think that this years all star game will be a
great offensive
battle. Look I will tell you how. Lets look at the public
league, they have
the Very strong arm quarterback from Bartum Phil Evens 6-1 205
,Dobbins sure
handed Qb/Rec. Barron Grier 6-3 200, Mastbum outstanding
running back Chirs
DeShields' 5-10 200 , Northeast Watchout player Chris
Poindexter 5-9 200,
and I must not forget about Bartum other star player Romar
Drake 6-2 200,one
more person I must talk about is Franklin beast Jonathan Jordan
for his size
he has nice speed with very good hands. Now about the catholic
leauge only
person I know that they have is Kyle Ambrogi 5-10 215, I know
that they will
have two strong arm QBs with the arm power to throw deep in Sj
Pep
startVince Gallagher 6-1 190 (He Took over for (Mike Mcgann
Temple).and led
the prep to the red championship. and Mr.What Greg Hennigar
from Judge 6-3
200. I know it will go down to the wire.
---- Jon Sims
(Ted's note: It's sometimes tough to put together an explosive
offense for all-star games, so defense usually dominates. But
this year could be an exception.)
yo ted why did u mention that there was a non-starter on
the squad,. that kid is a tough nose player and desereved more than her got, he was the 6
th oloine men, i think you owe him an apology
---- player for the non pubs
(Ted's note: Facts don't merit an apology. It shows how poor the
seniors were at some of the other schools.
I am happy that he made it into the game, though, and I hope he fully enjoys the
experience.)
Why don't the cl respect the pub??? I mean they didn't
respect us last year and they didn't score! They don't
respect us this year and we will see what happens.
By the way our D is big and fast as it always is.
---- From an All Star
BOE DAVIS, CHRIS DeSHIELDS, ALEEM MEDLEY, TRACY
WILLIAMS, MAURICE BENNETT, RYAN GORE, PERIOD..........
Please tell me how the greatest St. Joe's Prep player of
the 90s, Chip O'Connell, does not make this team. He is obviously better than all the DBs
on the non-pub squad.
---- anonymous
(Ted's note: Could it be that Chip didn't even play FB? Could it be that
great d-backs of the 90s are not exactly eligible to play in 2002? -- smile.)
Ted, about the non-starter for the Prep in the all
star game, where you trying to say that he didn't deserve it? How can you say that. If you
are indeed talking about the Colonel himself, than you are dead wrong, i know for a fact
that he didn't finish that far behind the starting LB in tackles, less than 15, while
playing a lot less time than the starter. He also was going to be voted as a first team
all catholic by Father Judge, but his name was unfortunatly on the ballot. He was also in
the game for and injured John Conners in the O'Hara game, when the Prep only passed the
ball one time. You tell me why he doesn't deserve it. I hope that the Colonel proves you
wrong, and that you will apologize to him after the game.
---- CL Football Fan
(Ted's note: I was pointing out something UNUSUAL. That's it! In
the history of all-star games worldwide, in any sport, how often have SUBS been in them?
Except for relief pitchers in baseball, that is. Prep and Judge have so many players in
the game in part because most of the other six N-P schools did not have strong senior
classes.)
HI TED
Did ya miss us? Cause we missed you.
This is Thunder of
THUNDER-N-LIGHTNING and I just got few questions for ya Ted.
What DB's are
missing from this game that you think deserve to be here. Hmm.
I wonder?
Just thought I'd let you that we made an appearance at an PL
All star
practice, and it wasn't looking to good. RB's okay, QB's and
WR's not to
bad, LB's and Linebackers acceptional, DB's well, umm,
uhh,.......
That kid from G-towns a beast but the rest of those characters
shouldn't
have a spot on the rosters or at least at DB. I mean some of
tese players
had 1 int, ZERO int's, some of them didn't play DB at all. I
mean I don't
want to sound like a hater because If they are there they must
deserve to be
there in SOMEBODY's eyes(just not mine). TED all I'm sayin is
that I had an
above average year at DB(3int's) and Special Teams(2tds), and
my colleague
being a 2 year starter had nothing but the same(4ints,2tds).
Yall might can
get a little help by letting my man O. Sanders from BROOK play
DB, but other
than that, yall just don't have enough for the CL.
---- Love Always THUNDER-N-LIGHTNING(brandon scott and
deron dungee)
P.S. since we can't play we'll be there front row,
Early, to support our PL
LOUD AND PROUD. I'm sure you get our point TED. HOLLA
(Ted's note: Thanks for checking in, guys. I know you're disappointed and
that's good because it means you REALLY wanted to play in the game. I also
like that you'll be there rooting. That shows class.)
This game will be very exciting and great players make the
big plays when
they count. The best players of both leagues were picked
because they are all
capable of making the big plays and that's what seperates the
good players
from the great players. My prediction is the PUB will dominate
and win 27-6.
Two NE players will walk away with all the pub awards. Darien
Hardy with the
Defensive MVP, Chris Poindexter with Offensive MVP and
Ryan McMillan with
Special Teams MVP. So strap up those chin pieces and get ready
to ball. Good
luck to all the participants in tonights game.
P.S. By the way some players asked to play certain
positions so that they
could prepare for that certain position in college. And if
Thunder is coming
at Hardy I belive Hardy played DB for his sophomore and junior
year as well
as in certain situations this past season. You can't blame Ted
and the
newspaper for their selections only 50 players can be selected
and GW
would've had more than its share if certain players were able
to stay
eligible.
---- anonymous
(Ted's note: Whoa, hold on! The Daily News has nothing to do with forming
the rosters. The players are picked by the coaches. I have a feeling this e-mailer
is a Northeast loyalist -- smile.)
Ted,
PC was represented last year by Alex Collins, who
played very well in the
game as an O lineman. He went on to Ohio Wesleyan (I
believe) wehre he is
playing linebacker. Others asked last year were Billy McKinney
(Univ of
Denver), and Ken Devenney (Davidson), but both were
All-League performers in
Lacrosse and Baseball respectively. I can't speak for CHA
but I know that PC
is usually part of the process still, but you are correct that
their spring
sports usually tie them up.
---- GJS
POST-GAME COMMENTS . . .
The officials for the all star game were the worst officials I ever seen. The only reason the catholic league scored was due to bogus penalties. Dont get me wrong the catholic league played great im not taking that away but the refs must of thought they all looked cute in their tights because they were doing them all kinds of favors. Well any way we (the pub) were supposed to get destroyed, no one gave us a chance and we went out there and earned our respect. We proved the pub was no joke. Congrats the the catholic league, but now you have no choice but to respect the pub.Dear Ted,
I think if Deron Dungee, Brandon Scott, and Kyle Bell would have Played it would
have been a different story in the all-star game. They are the best three DB's in the Pub.
Those northeast guys aren't going to get the job done.
---- Washington Player
(Ted's note: The N-P QBs had too much time to throw. Some of those patterns
took a while. The DBs were beat
on the TD plays, though. There can be no doubt about that.)
yea the catholic league won but so what. nobody gave us a
chance including
you ted and we stayed right there neck and neck with them. all
of the
officiating crew were from the catholic league so you know they
didnt want us
to win. I think the CL should respect us a little more now and
no suburban
school should take the pub lightly. cant nobody mess with us
when it comes to
RAW talent. Even though we lost by 2 i know we gained some
respect. ( Just
ask # 8 QB from the CL about #37)(he'll remember that
number!!!!)
---- your UNSUNG HERO Shahfin Timmons#37/27
Lincoln
(Ted's note: Shahfin had the best hit of the night. Everyone's still feeling
it.
He also did a nice job punting. I felt the Pub could hang. As I said beforehand,
the Pub needed good pressure on the QB. It got only one sack and the QBs
had time to complete key passes for big gains and/or TDs.)
Hi Ted:
I had to respond to anonymous, picking NE
players to take every award,
did he/she not know that every game is different and being a
true NE Fan I
would have never picked who was going to win until I saw them
play, they
can't be much of a NE sports fan if they didn't know that the
coaches picked
the players. Personally, I was just a little bit upset
that Public let
Non-Public come back and beat them by two points, I had to go
to my car the
last 8 minutes. Public, there is always next year.
To all the players, I
just want to wish you the best.
---- NE MOM
(Ted's note: Thanks, as always, for your contribution. Stay well.)
Congratulations to coach Coyle and the rest of the Non Public
coaches
and players for a well job well done. I have no beef with them.
I
would also like to say thank you to Tom McClain and the other
official who saw that there was a receiver in the area when
Omar
threw the ball. What is the point of having other officials to
assist
you if you are not going to allow them to do their job? I have
no
problem with the 15 yard penalty for the rules violation during
the
punt, we were wrong, but what about making the same call during
our
field goal attempt?
In previous years teams were at least warned before
given such a
severe penalty. I know because I have worked several All Star
games
where all I did was look for rules infractions from the booth.
I am
not saying that these things would have changed the outcome of
the
game, but who knows? CN8 did a wonderful job of covering the
game and
pointing out that there also should have been at least 1 second
on
the clock. For the young men who believe that if the other CL
Schools
participated the game would have been no contest at all, SJP
was your
big school champion. They were well represented. They are the
equivalent of an All Star team themselves, since a lot of their
top
players traditionally live out side the city. We did not play
our
cover 2 as well as I had planned. That was a big reason why we
lost.
From a personnel standpoint, we weren't even fully
represented as
the best players in the Public League. Academic eligibility is
the
responsibility of that player. However, when coaches of other
sports,
put pressure on their athletes not to play because of their own
personal goals or they don't like All Star games, that's sad.
In short I would like to Congratulate the 2002 Public
League All Star
Football Team for their effort. It was a pleasure to work with
so
many outstanding young men. I wish each and every one of you
good
luck on all of your goals and dreams.
Public League Pride Forever!
Coach Damond "Smash" Warren, Public All Stars Class
of 83
Chester High School
Head Football Coach
(Ted's note: Best of luck at Chester, Damond. And thanks
for your hustle on behalf of city football.)
Yo Ted,
In the past I have gained much respect for "Smash" Warren. I believe he is the
one who , after some behavior he did not approve of, made his players do
push-ups.......................in overtime!!!! However, I was a little taken back by his
e-mail concerning the All-Star game. Yo, Smash, 20 teams compared to 8 !!!!! Give me a
break...............do you really think that little of your league??? Also when you talk
about the Prep....please remember that they do not just exist for
athletics..............their AVERAGE SAT is over 1100. Do you really think that players
from Bonner, Carroll, Wood , McDevitt(which, right there brings it up to only 20-12
in favor of the PL) wouldn't make a difference -----you are not being realistic.Also, do
NOT give the impression you are not making excuses and then start making
them...............PLEASE!!! All I know is the Non-public team (stat-wise) out-played you
& you lost----that usually happens when the other team passes & runs for more
yards than you...
---- thank you, aquinasb
(Ted's note: Damond is very competitive and I know he's still hurting that
his last game as a Philly coach didn't produce a win.
One of the reasons he's leaving the Pub school system is that he knows too many people
don't care, and aren't willing to match
his work ethic. Don't hold things against him, Quine.)
to fat #63 of the public team ....quit your crying u geek.......its
aallstar game played for fun you are acting like its a championship game....and how u are
saying "we proved the pub is no joke"....well it is a joke...i love how some of
the kids on the public league team CUT every day of school and some how still get to
practice everyday and be able to play in that game.. and i know that for a fact...now
thats a joke right there......and if u want to start talking stupid .....the public league
teams get to pick from 20 schools when catholic teams picks from 8.......think about it
P.S..why dont yous all stop dedicating your life to this comment pageand just go and
play the game and have FUN!!!
---- Catholice league player
(Ted's note: The Pub kids take the game very seriously because they hate
being looked down on. Anyone who cuts
every day of school is only fooling himself.)
Ted,
I spoke to the assigner of the officials. He
stated that the referee
is chosen and he picks "his crew". He also said that
he believes they
were color blind. This may be the case or not. I do know that
one of
them was wearing a Father Judge jacket before and after the
game. I
don't believe there is a controversy in this situation.
However, if
the game was played in South West or West Philadelphia, the
crew was
all black, and one of them was wearing a Bartram jacket there
would
definitely be a whole bunch of folks crying foul. Obviously
these set
of circumstances would never materialize.
Thank you for bringing out this issue and for always
keeping it real.
Hopefully people's minds are open enough to see this point. The
way
America still is, probably not.
---- Anonymous
(Ted's note: Thank you. I just feel that in a game featuring
kids from all over the city, it makes sense that the crew should reflect
the city's makeup, at least to some degree. By the way, I don't believe
any of the refs made a call to intentionally stick it to the PL.)
It is funny how we didn't hear any crying last year when
the public won
(white refs). Believe me, the refs could care less who
wins that game.
It's supposed to be for fun. It's typical, when you
don't blame yourself,
who else is to blame but the (white) refs.
---- BB Ref
first of all last time we met 1on1 Obrien i remember you
getting off your
back looking up at the clouds. i could have took that return to
the house but
i wanted to put you on your back. second of all im 2x's
better than you on
offense and on defense (just give me your offensive line for
one game and see
what i do) even with what i got i produce more than anyone
could expect. you
know who yall studied all week long before the thanksgiving
game.
obviously you payed close attention to me to know what i did
after i hit ya
boy. how many times did you press rewind. and maybe he wont
remember me,
amnesia usually kicks in after hits like that.
(oh yea i heard you play badminton or some other fluke
sport, noodle)
---- Shahfin Timmons #27/37 Lincoln
(Ted's note: I do know Justin played soccer, and displayed
world-class skill before
he decided he preferred football.)
just give me your offensive line for one game and see what i do. Shahfin Timmons is now my main man. O'Brien Sux. Go Railsplitters. But no seriously Shahfin you are good but 2X better. Come on Now. I give you credit you did a lot for your team trying to kick, but you aint in Justin's league with that. I think he has you on offense too, but Defense. Probably you. I don't know what other sport your talking about . If it's soccer you can't talk [poop] there but I don't know what this Rugby junk is. All I know is that Justin plays harder than anyone his size I've ever witnessed. Ask Terrell Roper if he'll back down.
to shahfin timmons,
great. you can hit hard. we'll all remember. we'll also remember non-public
won, without using a good number of PCL schools.
arrogance goes nowhere.
thanks ted.
---- anonymous
(Ted's note: Everybody's bringin' it to Shahfin. I know he can take it.)
i admit yall did win. and thats cool. its real petty to go
back and forth on
this site we already settled this on the field. all im sayin is
give respect
where respect is due. yea the CL has some great players
but the PL does to.
are they not so good because they go to pub-school.be foreal if
you got
talent you got talent. just give respect where it is due.
---- Timmons #27/37
(Ted's note: OK, this is the end of this debate. Shahfin and Justin were the
franchise players on their high school teams and both did well in the All-Star
Game. I wish both of them well in college. Thanks, guys.)
If you take kids from twenty different schools, all with
different coaches,
all with different terminology, and of course all with
different degrees of
what makes an all-star talented player, then you will have more
difficulty
forming a team of coherent players, all on the same page at the
same
time. How would the outcome be different if we only took
from the eight
playoff teams in the pub and put the best against their best.
All school
in our league must be represented. Imagine if we only
took the Offensive
line from one or two schools and meshed them together.
They all played
with each other all year, they know what strengths and
weaknesses they need
to overcome and how to overcome them. Let's take only
kids from
Washington, NE, Frankford, Mastbaum, Dobbins, Central, King and
BOK, then
let's see how those kids stack up. 20 TEAMS TO CHOOSE FROM IS
NOT AN
ADVANTAGE WHEN ALL SCHOOLS MUST BE REPRESENTED. I think
all the non-public
schools should be included in the mix.
---- Paul Cammarota- Offensive Line Coach
(Ted's note: You make an interesting point, Paul. SJ Prep
and Judge had roughly 25 kids total in the game. That HAD
to help from the cohesion standpoint. The suburban kids
have other games to play in. I do feel the talent dropoff is
much quicker in the Pub than in the CL. The top-level guys
are pretty much equal. But the CL's second-line guys are
generally much better than the Pub's.)
I wish everyone would shut up about the ref wheather
there black of white. Who cares? I enjoyed watching
the game. I hope the players enjoy playin the game.
So who cares about the refs. Its only a game.
---- anonymous
This message is strictly for the Washington DB's that came at all of
Northeast DB's and any other DB that played and to the other haters. The
reason why [Washington guys didn't play was this: they weren't good
enough or were academically ineligible -- this clause inserted by Ted to
take the place of some very personal stuff]. I hope the Washington guys
enjoy watching Ryan McMillian and the West Virginia Mountaineers, and
Darien "Party" Hardy and the Penn State Nittany Lions on ABC, while
Corey Sample dominates at Tuskegee University and Shafin from LIncoln
kills at Millersville.
-----Anonymous